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Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2007 6:39 pm Post subject:
nicoleC wrote:
Alchemists in FW
schwaaaa? so what is alchemy in FW?
on an unrelated note: fantastic artwork, and when I read the * note at the bottom of Ch1 pg 6, I seriously laughed out loud for a good 20 seconds or so.
You nailed it! I could answer, but I think it'll be more satisfying if I have it play out on the pages. I re-read the beginning to make sure, and it's true she never really says what she plans to do with the relics...
astrocom wrote:
schwaaaa? so what is alchemy in FW?
Alchemy is a study that's based on the theory that everything reacts to the Song, and different things have different reactions and resonances. So it's analyzing basically all the stuff you can think of, distilling said stuff down to purer or more elemental forms, then combining the stuff together to get something new/shiny/explosive. A little bit less fickle than the Rule, and easier to learn, but it takes more junk to work with and a lot more time to perform, and the effects are generally less powerful than thaumaturgy. (Witches' brews and remedies are a sort of countrified version of alchemy)
Oh yeah, and Golems are made by combining alchemy with sorcery and necromancy! Fun times! (and a good way to get yourself blacklisted for the Thaumaturgical Christmas Party)
edit: about the * note at the bottom of the page, my little bro suggested the language of "Desu Desu" after I put the page up XD Think it would be better? I'm a bit of an anime fogey and I don't know how far that expression has spread... _________________
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Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2007 11:16 pm Post subject:
nicoleC wrote:
about the * note at the bottom of the page, my little bro suggested the language of "Desu Desu" after I put the page up XD Think it would be better? I'm a bit of an anime fogey and I don't know how far that expression has spread...
Desu Desu would only be better if there was a Suiseiseki joke preceding it. Which there isn't, so omgkawaii works just fine. _________________
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Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2007 4:17 am Post subject:
nicoleC wrote:
Oh yeah, and Golems are made by combining alchemy with sorcery and necromancy! Fun times! (and a good way to get yourself blacklisted for the Thaumaturgical Christmas Party)
Necromacy? So are we going to be seeing zombies and ghouls anytime soon?
Brainnzzzz....
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Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2007 11:44 am Post subject: Re: Questions about the world of FW
nicoleC wrote:
1. Are mages (anyone capable of casting magic) rare? And how are they viewed within society? Humans who learn magic in the official schools are called Thaumaturges, and they practice a system called the Rule. It's basically the "language" of magic coded into a bunch of symbols and syllables, but it's not perfect. Anyone can technically learn magic, but the schools are remote and expensive, the study is incredibly long and dangerous, and the popular consensus is that you have to be at least a little bit stark raving mad to even want to try. They're regarded with curiosity most of the time and generally accepted in society if they're not too eccentric.
The other kind of magic user is the real rarity. They're the ones (like Kit) who can instinctively use magic without study, formula or even understanding how they do it. It's mostly known as "The Song", and usually the only ones who can use it are the Fey, spirits, elementals, magical beasts... They don't use spells but interact directly with the currents of magic, but no one knows exactly what are the extents of what they can and can't do, or if their gifts are stable or ticking time bombs. If folks know they exist, they're usually regarded with suspicion.
So what is sorcery(both Rule and Song?)? What is necromancy?
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Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2007 10:41 pm Post subject: Re: Questions about the world of FW
Nauris wrote:
So what is sorcery(both Rule and Song?)? What is necromancy?
Oh darn, sorry... I took out that bit trying to avoid wall-of-text-syndrome in my first answer. XD
Sorcery and Necromancy are just names for Thaumaturgy. But they're not compliments and they describe ways of using the Rule that are reckless, nasty and generally frowned upon by upstanding folk. There are some fundamental laws to obey when you're planning on being a practicing "magic bugger", and sorcery and necromancy are usually breaking a few of them at the very least. Like the law that says that "Dead Things Should Remain Dead" in the case of Necromancers. Being convicted of an act of necromancy and being branded a Sorcerer by one's thaumaturgical peers are probably two of the worst things for one's career...official career at least _________________
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Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 8:40 am Post subject:
Necromancers broke the rule: "Dead Things Should Remain Dead". What rule do Sorcerers brake? What other rules there are to brake, and what are rulebrakers called then?
So Golem makers brake at least two rules, and study alchemy?
Are there both Rule and Song users? What is their status?
What is Kit's relationship with chickens? She is afraid of dogs, and is hunting mice . Is she still raiding chicken coops?
How will Nigel's curse work if he'll meet "that" transvestite hermaphrodite gnome?
Both Necromancers and Sorcerers break other rules, the "dead things" rule was just an example. There are 3 basic rules: "Preserve the Balance" (between order and chaos, good cooking and burnt gruel etc. The "dead things" rule is part of this one. "The Fey Came First" and the most important law: "Don't Do Anything Stupid".
Golem makers break a lot of the "Preserve the Balance" rules, and sometimes a couple of the "Don't Do Anything Stupid" rules depending on their skill and the golem they're trying to make. They can be made either by a sorcerer who knows some alchemy, or by a sorcerer and an alchemist.
No one can use both the Rule and Song. The Song can't be learned, and those who can hear the Song can't understand how the Rule works, so they can never learn it.
If Larina and Nigel aren't around and there's an unattended chicken coop near her, I think Kit would raid a chicken coop in the blink of an eye.
As for Nigel's curse and that transvestite gnome...nobody knows, but Nigel really hopes that nothing will happen, since his hex already has a target XD
Sid and his brother are really twins, but they're fraternal twins and Sid takes after their mom, whereas his brother takes after their dad.
And as for heights, Larina is around 5'4" (but her height is the one that I have the most trouble keeping consistent). Sid is around 5'8"-5'9", Zeph (if you don't count his horns) is pretty much the same height as Sid, Kit is about 5'10" and Nigel is around 6'2". At least that's how tall they are in my head XD _________________
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Posted: Fri Dec 07, 2007 8:55 am Post subject:
Other than that sorcerers probably don't mess around with dead things?
I gots a question. Ok, lots o' questions:
Can the Song and the Rule be used in conjunction with each other? Could you use the Rule to protect yourself from the Song and vice versa? Are they simply different means to the same pontential end result or is the magic of one fundamentally different from the other? In other words, are they simply different ways of tapping into the same magic? Could a human be born with the ability to use the Song, or is its use restricted to fey alone? Are there elven thaumaturges or mages?
Sorry about the sheer number of questions. I just tend to get on a roll when I start thinking about a single thing. _________________ In the beginning the universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and has been widely regarded as a bad move. - (The Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy)
You live and learn. At any rate, you live. You also panic.
There's no real difference between sorcerers and necromancers (and thaumaturges for that matter) aside from the word used to describe them. Necromancers tend to focus narrowly in mucking around with dead things, sorcerers are essentially rogue turges who may have used the Rule to terrorize parts of countryside, antagonize the fey, upset peace or on a more personal scale, used the Rule to try and break another person's will, magically enslave someone... etc. etc. (Or just ticked their fellow turges off bigtime without having done anything unconscionable)
The Rule and the Song are two ways of interpreting the same energy, so they can be used in conjunction or in opposition. There are humans and elves and etc. who are born with the Song. And there are are elven thaumaturges, but their way of studying is a bit different than the human way. _________________
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Posted: Fri Dec 07, 2007 1:36 pm Post subject:
So, knowing that the Song can't be learned, is it possible for someone to be deaf to the Song and be cured?
This obviously wouldn't be like someone discovers a cure for Song deafness that can be used on anyone, more like say, someone who can hear the Song is overexposed or suffers some other injury at a young age, or someone uses the Song or the Rule to block this first person's ability, and then the first person gets healed in some way.
I always thought it odd that Kit could speak coherantly, let alone think as intellegently as any human being. Did her hex expand her brain capacity and complexity in addition to her appearance? _________________
So, knowing that the Song can't be learned, is it possible for someone to be deaf to the Song and be cured?
This obviously wouldn't be like someone discovers a cure for Song deafness that can be used on anyone, more like say, someone who can hear the Song is overexposed or suffers some other injury at a young age, or someone uses the Song or the Rule to block this first person's ability, and then the first person gets healed in some way.
In most cases I think that would be possible. If the person themselves burnt themselves out or did something to interfere with their own abilities, they'd probably heal over time. I don't think the Rule could be used to stop the Song, or the reverse, since the two systems don't "understand" each other, so to speak. The Song could be used against the Song, but that could be healed with help....from someone else who's familiar with the Song XD
Aurore wrote:
I always thought it odd that Kit could speak coherantly, let alone think as intellegently as any human being. Did her hex expand her brain capacity and complexity in addition to her appearance?
That ...is a mystery for the ages! _________________
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I re-read the beginning to make sure, and it's true she never really says what she plans to do with the relics... 
. Is she still raiding chicken coops?
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